Mungrisdale Parish Council

Mungrisdale Parish Council
Chairman welcomed councillors, members of the public, Mr Fisher~ Chairman of Eden District Council and Mr Threlkeld~ representative of the Northern Fells Group to the meeting.
1. Apologies ~ non received
2. Minutes signed by the Chairman as a true record minutes of the meeting held on 8 November 2004
3. Northern Fells Group ~ Malcolm Threlkeld had been invited to talk to the Council about the work of the Northern Fells following a request for additional support towards the purchase of a new mini bus. The key areas of the group are ~ Lend a Hand Group; Lunch Clubs; Youth initiative scheme; benefits awareness scheme and the mini bus. We already give £200 in sponsorship towards the running costs of the bus and they are seeking an additional one off payment of £500 towards replacing it. In 5 years the bus has completed 101000 miles. There are 22 different voluntary drivers of which 3 are based in Mungrisdale ~ a fourth is waiting for a criminal records certificate. The bus can take anyone anywhere at almost anytime and medical journeys are paid for by the Doctors Surgery. However, the charities commission do not allow a profit to be made and all charges have to just cover diesel costs. The Princes Trust has given between £8 and £10 thousand. There is a promise auction on 5 February to raise funds and one of the sponsors is prepared to match what is made at the auction. They hope to be able to purchase the bus VAT free which is approx. £4000 but this is not yet confirmed and cannot be relied upon. There are regular passengers who go to community centres and priority is given to medical trips and it is a service that does provide real value for money. Michael Bohling proposed the Council give the additional £500 ~ seconded by Alan Tiffin and everyone agreed.
4. Public Participation The chairman adjourned the meeting to allow members of the public an opportunity to ask questions or raise matters of interest. The following points were raised: · An issue was raised that all items that are agreed should be proposed and seconded but this is not the case if all councillors at the meeting are in agreement. · A question was raised on correspondence and what was included in the correspondence list. This covers general correspondence and where items relate to a dedicated item on the agenda they are raised within that part. · There was some confusion by one of the councillors regarding the minutes of the previous meeting and it was confirmed that they are always signed by the chairman. · A councillor asked why the precept information had been circulated at very short notice. The Clerk advised that the papers were not received until after the November meeting and that due to family illness there had been a delay in completing the work. The letter was circulated to councillors as the response was required by 4 January. · A request has been received by the Northern Fells Lend a Hand Group from the Red Cross for helpers at the Feed Centres in Carlisle. Anyone who can help on 11^th or 12^th January, sessions are 8-2 and 2-8 was asked to contact the co-ordinator on 016973 71947
5. Declaration of Interest Mrs Smith declared an interest in the Northern Fells Group as she is Vice Chair and Parish representative
6. Accounts · Authorised payment of Bills due § National Association of Local Councils £45 § Mosedale Meeting House for November meeting £8 § Ken Mills ~ Hutton Roof paid as part of the overall project costs £84 · Report on income received and on current financial position was not available due to technical difficulties and will be circulated to the councillors before the next meeting
7. Parish Precept for 2005 set at £1000 as agreed at the special meeting held on 4 January. Amended budget to be circulated to councillors prior to the next meeting.
8. Planning Applications ~ Received · Eycott Farm Berrier 7/2004/3167 and 3168 ~ First Floor Extension · Bells Farm Berrier 04/1157 ~ Conversion of existing attached store to additional living accommodation
9. Planning Applications ~ Decisions · Croft House Mosedale 7/2004/3079 ~ granted · Stewart Hill Farm 7/2004/3105 ~ granted ~ commencement within 5 years · Stewart Hill Farm 7/2004/3106 ~ granted ~ commencement within 5 years · The Horse Shoe Inn Hutton Roof ~ 7/2001/3098 ~ application withdrawn · The Byre, Mosedale 7/2004/3135 ~ granted ~ commencement within 5 years and stone to match that of ‘The Byre’ in all ways in terms of size; method of laying; pointing; jointing · Bannerdale View · Holme Farm ~7/2004/3145 ~ granted ~commencement within 5 years~ roof to be covered in local slate~ stone facing in local stone to match buildings; Windows and Doors to be timber
10. Hutton Roof Green · Letter has been sent regarding the track. · Letter has been received from one of the residents and this was read. · Letters have been received from Open Spaces and Eden District Council Legal department and these were read. Both questioned the legality of fencing the greens. The fencing was put up by the National Park upland management team to protect the greens and has been in place since 1984 with no objections between then and 2004. The fence is to prevent cattle getting onto the green and to enable better enjoyment. It was agreed by all that the Clerk should pursue legal advice without cost to the council. · Site visit took place on 4 January to view the work already undertaken on the green and particularly the area of water located beside the stile and footpath. Wilson’s, the contractors, are not happy with the finished work on the track which is due, in part, to the extremely wet weather. They will return when the weather improves to complete the work and we do not have to pay the invoice until the work has been completed to our satisfaction. · As a short term measure arrangements will be made for some quarry waste to be delivered to the area that is very wet. A small work party will dig a trench to drain the water.
11. Highways The outstanding work does not appear to have been completed but this is probably due to the problems with the weather. No action to be taken for the time being. Councillors were asked to contact the Highways Hotline with problems. Parishioners will be encouraged to do this by placing the number on the notice boards and the web site.
12. United Utilities Problems continue with United Utilities and the water bills for the Mungrisdale Garden Ground and Liscow. Letters have now been received saying they were unable to gain access to the meters to read them. The Clerk has written to them.
13. Sustainable Development The application that was made for the notice boards and a bench and table has been successful. Work needs to be completed by the end of March and it was decided to set up a sub committee with the Chairman; Vice Chairman and Clerk to progress the work and report to the next meeting.
14. Mungrisdale Post Office The mobile post office is currently being reviewed as they need to find a way of completing electronic transactions. If they cannot then the service will be withdrawn. If they do they will consider the availability in Mungrisdale.
15. Parish Plans ~ A representative from Voluntary Action Cumbria will attend the March Meeting to talk to us about Parish Plans
16. Mosedale/Bowscale ~ improvements to the area was withdrawn until a future meeting
17. Right to Roam ~ National Park Ranger will attend the May meeting to talk to the councillors
18. Correspondence Correspondence received since the last meeting · CALC circulars ~ November; December/January copied with the Agenda · Standards Board ~ Lobby Groups and Local Investigations booklets received and circulated. · Mungrisdale Recreation Room thank you letter received for support during the building. · Eden Citizens Advice Bureau ~ opening time posters to be copied and placed on each notice board and added to the web site. · Freedom of Information Act ~ Legal update · Training o CALC courses for Spring have now been received. It was agreed that the Clerk should attend the workshops for Freedom of Information Act and Local Council Finance~ £15 each. o Society of Local Council Clerks · Cumbria Police Authority · Future of Acute Health Services in North Cumbria · Eden Local Plan Review ~ Housing Policies Booklet · Quality Parish · Neighbourhood forum meeting · National Park changes to the way they work · Voluntary Action Cumbria Appointment ~ Roger Roberts has been appointed Chief Executive
19. Clerk ~ Contract of Employment was not discussed but the detailed contract will be circulated prior to the next meeting.
20.Meeting Dates for 2005 March 7th; May 9th; July 4th; September 5th; November 7^th These dates are on the internet site but will also be published on the notice boards.
The Chairman closed the meeting and thanked everyone for coming
Next Meeting ~7^th March 2005 in Mungrisdale Village Hall

Mungrisdale Parish Council

Minutes of meeting held on Monday 10^th January 2005

Chairman welcomed councillors, members of the public, Mr Fisher~ Chairman of Eden District Council and Mr Threlkeld~ representative of the Northern Fells Group to the meeting.

1. Apologies ~ non received

2. Minutes signed by the Chairman as a true record minutes of the meeting held on 8 November 2004

3. Northern Fells Group ~ Malcolm Threlkeld had been invited to talk to the Council about the work of the Northern Fells following a request for additional support towards the purchase of a new mini bus. The key areas of the group are ~ Lend a Hand Group; Lunch Clubs; Youth initiative scheme; benefits awareness scheme and the mini bus. We already give £200 in sponsorship towards the running costs of the bus and they are seeking an additional one off payment of £500 towards replacing it. In 5 years the bus has completed 101000 miles. There are 22 different voluntary drivers of which 3 are based in Mungrisdale ~ a fourth is waiting for a criminal records certificate. The bus can take anyone anywhere at almost anytime and medical journeys are paid for by the Doctors Surgery. However, the charities commission do not allow a profit to be made and all charges have to just cover diesel costs. The Princes Trust has given between £8 and £10 thousand. There is a promise auction on 5 February to raise funds and one of the sponsors is prepared to match what is made at the auction. They hope to be able to purchase the bus VAT free which is approx. £4000 but this is not yet confirmed and cannot be relied upon. There are regular passengers who go to community centres and priority is given to medical trips and it is a service that does provide real value for money. Michael Bohling proposed the Council give the additional £500 ~ seconded by Alan Tiffin and everyone agreed.

4. Public Participation

The chairman adjourned the meeting to allow members of the public an opportunity to ask questions or raise matters of interest. The following points were raised:

· An issue was raised that all items that are agreed should be proposed and seconded but this is not the case if all councillors at the meeting are in agreement.

· A question was raised on correspondence and what was included in the correspondence list. This covers general correspondence and where items relate to a dedicated item on the agenda they are raised within that part.

· There was some confusion by one of the councillors regarding the minutes of the previous meeting and it was confirmed that they are always signed by the chairman.

· A councillor asked why the precept information had been circulated at very short notice. The Clerk advised that the papers were not received until after the November meeting and that due to family illness there had been a delay in completing the work. The letter was circulated to councillors as the response was required by 4 January.

· A request has been received by the Northern Fells Lend a Hand Group from the Red Cross for helpers at the Feed Centres in Carlisle. Anyone who can help on 11^th or 12^th January, sessions are 8-2 and 2-8 was asked to contact the co-ordinator on 016973 71947

5. Declaration of Interest

Mrs Smith declared an interest in the Northern Fells Group as she is Vice Chair and Parish representative

6. Accounts

· Authorised payment of Bills due

§ National Association of Local Councils £45

§ Mosedale Meeting House for November meeting £8

§ Ken Mills ~ Hutton Roof paid as part of the overall project costs £84

· Report on income received and on current financial position was not available due to technical difficulties and will be circulated to the councillors before the next meeting

7. Parish Precept for 2005 set at £1000 as agreed at the special meeting held on 4 January. Amended budget to be circulated to councillors prior to the next meeting.

8. Planning Applications ~ Received

· Eycott Farm Berrier 7/2004/3167 and 3168 ~ First Floor Extension

· Bells Farm Berrier 04/1157 ~ Conversion of existing attached store to additional living accommodation

9. Planning Applications ~ Decisions

· Croft House Mosedale 7/2004/3079 ~ granted

· Stewart Hill Farm 7/2004/3105 ~ granted ~ commencement within 5 years

· Stewart Hill Farm 7/2004/3106 ~ granted ~ commencement within 5 years

· The Horse Shoe Inn Hutton Roof ~ 7/2001/3098 ~ application withdrawn

· The Byre, Mosedale 7/2004/3135 ~ granted ~ commencement within 5 years and stone to match that of ‘The Byre’ in all ways in terms of size; method of laying; pointing; jointing

· Bannerdale View

· Holme Farm ~7/2004/3145 ~ granted ~commencement within 5 years~ roof to be covered in local slate~ stone facing in local stone to match buildings; Windows and Doors to be timber

10. Hutton Roof Green

· Letter has been sent regarding the track.

· Letter has been received from one of the residents and this was read.

· Letters have been received from Open Spaces and Eden District Council Legal department and these were read. Both questioned the legality of fencing the greens. The fencing was put up by the National Park upland management team to protect the greens and has been in place since 1984 with no objections between then and 2004. The fence is to prevent cattle getting onto the green and to enable better enjoyment. It was agreed by all that the Clerk should pursue legal advice without cost to the council.

· Site visit took place on 4 January to view the work already undertaken on the green and particularly the area of water located beside the stile and footpath. Wilson’s, the contractors, are not happy with the finished work on the track which is due, in part, to the extremely wet weather. They will return when the weather improves to complete the work and we do not have to pay the invoice until the work has been completed to our satisfaction.

· As a short term measure arrangements will be made for some quarry waste to be delivered to the area that is very wet. A small work party will dig a trench to drain the water.

11. Highways

The outstanding work does not appear to have been completed but this is probably due to the problems with the weather. No action to be taken for the time being. Councillors were asked to contact the Highways Hotline with problems. Parishioners will be encouraged to do this by placing the number on the notice boards and the web site.

12. United Utilities

Problems continue with United Utilities and the water bills for the Mungrisdale Garden Ground and Liscow. Letters have now been received saying they were unable to gain access to the meters to read them. The Clerk has written to them.

13. Sustainable Development

The application that was made for the notice boards and a bench and table has been successful. Work needs to be completed by the end of March and it was decided to set up a sub committee with the Chairman; Vice Chairman and Clerk to progress the work and report to the next meeting.

14. Mungrisdale Post Office

The mobile post office is currently being reviewed as they need to find a way of completing electronic transactions. If they cannot then the service will be withdrawn. If they do they will consider the availability in Mungrisdale.

15. Parish Plans ~ A representative from Voluntary Action Cumbria will attend the March Meeting to talk to us about Parish Plans

16. Mosedale/Bowscale ~ improvements to the area was withdrawn until a future meeting

17. Right to Roam ~ National Park Ranger will attend the May meeting to talk to the councillors

18. Correspondence

Correspondence received since the last meeting

· CALC circulars ~ November; December/January copied with the Agenda

· Standards Board ~ Lobby Groups and Local Investigations booklets received and circulated.

· Mungrisdale Recreation Room thank you letter received for support during the building.

· Eden Citizens Advice Bureau ~ opening time posters to be copied and placed on each notice board and added to the web site.

· Freedom of Information Act ~ Legal update

· Training

o CALC courses for Spring have now been received. It was agreed that the Clerk should attend the workshops for Freedom of Information Act and Local Council Finance~ £15 each.

o Society of Local Council Clerks

· Cumbria Police Authority

· Future of Acute Health Services in North Cumbria

· Eden Local Plan Review ~ Housing Policies Booklet

· Quality Parish

· Neighbourhood forum meeting

· National Park changes to the way they work

· Voluntary Action Cumbria Appointment ~ Roger Roberts has been appointed Chief Executive

19. Clerk ~ Contract of Employment was not discussed but the detailed contract will be circulated prior to the next meeting.

20.Meeting Dates for 2005

March 7th; May 9th; July 4th; September 5th; November 7^th

These dates are on the internet site but will also be published on the notice boards.

The Chairman closed the meeting and thanked everyone for coming

Next Meeting ~7^th March 2005 in Mungrisdale Village Hall